NASA-UAP-D020, Gemini 5 Technical Debriefing, Part II, 1965
This document is a preliminary transcript (Part II) derived from voice recordings of the Gemini 5 flight crew technical debriefing. NASA conducted this debriefing between August 30, 1965, and September 2, 1965, at the Crew Quarters, Cape Kennedy, Florida. Astronauts L. Gordon Cooper and Charles “Pete” Conrad described observing debris and “snow” and “all sorts of glittering pieces of this, that and the other thing” in the “Visual Sightings” section of the document (pages 157-220).
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j Technical Debriefing NOTICE: This document may be exempt from public disclosure under the Freedom of Infor lease to persons outside the U. S. Government should be handled under the provisions of NASA Policy Directive 1382.2. W ITHI N THE MEANING OF TH£ ESPIONAGE LAWS .. MISS ION OR REVELATION OF WHICH IN "NY M"NNIEl'I TO AN UN ....UTHORIZ£D P'EASON IS PIIOHIBITED BY LAW. DOWNGRADED AT J YEAR IN TFRVALS
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GT-5 FLIGHT CREW DEBRIEFING TRANSCRIPT PART II Prepared By Spacecraft Operations Branch Flight Crew Support Division This material contains information affecting the national defense of the United States within the meaning of the Espionage Laws, Title 18. U.S. C. Section 793 and 794, the transmission or revela tion of which in any manner to an unauthorized person is prohibited by law. Group 4: Downgrade at 3 year intervals Declassified after 12 years
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This preliminary transcript was made from voice tape recordings of the GT-5 flight crew debriefing conducted August 30, 1965 thru September 2, 1965 at the Crew Quarters, Cape Kennedy, Florida . Although all the material contained in this transcript has been edited, the urgent need for the preliminary transcript by mission analysis personnel precluded a thorough editorial review prior to its publication. Errors in this transcript will be corrected as soon as possible and an official transcript will be published at a later date. This document contai ns a transcript of the second part of the total debriefing. A prel iminary transcript of the first part was published on September 1, 1965, and it contains the crew's description of the mission from an operati onal standpoint.
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TABLE OF CONTENTS Paragraph Page number 8.0 SYSTEMS OPERATION 9,0 OPERATIONAL CHECKS 10.0 VISUAL SIGHTINGS 11.1 Visual Definition of Celestial Objects (D-1), Nearby Object Photography (D-2) , and Terrest rial 11.4 Visual Acuity and Astronaut Visibility (S-8/D-13)
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8.O SYSTEMS OPERATIONS Cooper By day we used standard procedure of finding a zero yaw, which is a little easier to do down at about retro position. The nose is a little bit in the way for determining zero yaw unless you pitch down just a little past nose low in zero zero-zero position. When pitched down just a tiny bit, zero yaw was very readily apparent to within a fairly reasonable degree of accuracy, and then ease it right on up. We had lines for the zero zero position to give us our pitch and roll on the horizon. This was the regular day alinement. Night was pretty much the same except we 1d get zero yaw by a star, get roll and pitch by the zero lines on the window (or knowing where they were approximately) line this with the top of the air glow or the horizon. At that point you'd go into Cage, hold it there at that position until it caged) then uncage the platform to BEF or SEF whichever the case might be, and then to to Plat form and Attitude on the FDM and FDI's. Then aline the platform fine aline SEF or BEF by keeping
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the needles zeroed. It would slowly gyro torque itself and correct out the small errors for fine alinement. Anything to add, Pete? Conrad Well, I didn ' t hear all of that, but I think the alinement is straightforward. One thlng I had not read in either the GT-3 or GT-4 debriefings on this subject on out the window alinement was that we have a window gage that you can us1i t hat will put you right on in roll and pitch ancl, of course, for yaw you still have to use the same out the window reference. Cooper One thing that I think that should very definitely training wise be readily available anc. we looked and looked and looked and couldn't fir..d any was an actual scale picture of the left hand wi ndow and the right hand window with what the hcri zon should look like at zero-zero-zero and at retro attitude and at minus 90 degrees left and 90 degrees r ight and at 60 degrees left and 60 degrees right and this type thing. I've never seen an a~tual drawing showing the horizon line on a window a·'ld what i t should look l ike.
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Conrad Yes Cooper I think this would be a tremendous benefit and shouldn't be difficult to come up with. Conrad If you place your eye so that it goes through the lower left corner of the right window or the lower right corner of the left window and run that eye position right through the front RCS yaw thruster, the lower yaw thruster in the front ring, I guess that's ring A, anyway, you take a line between your eye, the corner of the window and the front RCS yaw thruster, right through the middle of it, and put that line on the top of the airglow or the horizon. Then the spacecraft, and this looks like an excessively nose up attitude, but it's not, you're zero degrees in pitch then the window frame is just about vertical to the horizon and it forms a perpendicular angle. Cooper The inside edge of the frame . Conrad The inside up and down edge of the window corner makes a perpendicular angle to the horizon and you can use that as a roll gage. If you set it up
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that way that platform isn 't off 4 or 5 degrees i n roll or pitch. Cooper So, i t really looks like, when you fir3t start lining it up, it appear s to you that f::-om the left seat that you ' re actually rolled l eft, Conrad Yes, that's right. Cooper And f r om your seat it would look l i ke j t was actuall y r olled right. Cooper It doesn' t look horizontal at al l, but that ' s due to the fact t hat you 're sitting off by thi s offset.
Where this file fits in the PURSUE archive
This file is one of NASA's 40 files in the Trump PURSUE disclosure. Within the NASA agency block it ranks #37 of 40 by Anomalousness Index. Across the entire 450-file archive it ranks #190 of 450.
That places it in the lower-scoring band of the archive (190 of 450 by score), typical of investigative-record style files where the report is paper-based rather than instrumented.
For the broader cluster context, this file is part of Gemini 5's "Snow" - the two-part Gemini 5 technical debriefing (1965) in which Gordon Cooper and Pete Conrad described debris and "snow" particles around the spacecraft. The cluster page walks through all 2 member files with regional grouping, sensor breakdown, and standout analysis.
Anomalousness Index: 59/100
Evidentiary weight that this encounter remains unexplained after conventional analysis. Not a probability of extraterrestrial origin - that number is not honestly computable from the released files and this tracker refuses to publish it.
🤖 AI-ASSISTED SCORING · methodology
The six rubric components break down for this file as follows. Each component has a weighted contribution to the final score; the per-component explanation below describes what this file's particular value on that component means in the rubric's framework.
Reported by a witness with no instrumented record. The lowest tier in the rubric's sensor axis. Eyewitness perception in field conditions, even when the witness is highly credentialed, scores below capture by any instrumented modality. This report reached the federal record through NASA.
Astronaut witness on the official federal record - the highest tier in the rubric's witness-credibility axis. It applies to NASA crew debriefings, mission transcripts, and astronaut interviews across the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo programs. Witness credibility is only one of six components; the astronaut-witness files that also rank high on the sensor and disposition axes are the eight tied for the archive's top score of 72 - the Gemini 7 Borman audio, the Gordon Cooper interview, and the Apollo 14, 16, and 17 crew debriefings.
Single-witness or single-instrument capture. This is the corroboration tier for the overwhelming majority of the PURSUE archive on the released metadata - the rubric records the honest limit of the underlying record rather than inferring multi-witness corroboration that the released summaries do not establish. A small number of files with an independent second witness or instrument score on the multi-witness/multi-instrument tier above this one.
No kinematic measurements - speed, acceleration, vector - are published in the released file with sufficient precision to score on the kinematic axis. The rubric does not infer kinematic anomaly from narrative observer estimates. Every file in the archive carries this value, which is itself an observation about the disclosure: kinematic-grade telemetry was not part of what was released.
A conventional candidate explanation has been considered but is not dispositive. Every file in the archive scores this way - reflecting that the underlying release metadata systematically caveats strong determinations in either direction. The released summaries warn against reading them as conclusive analytical judgments, and the rubric respects that.
Released as open after formal review by the originating agency. The file passed through a review process and was published in that posture - a stronger disposition signal than 'unresolved with no review,' because review has occurred and the open status is the agency's published conclusion.
Bottom line on the score: the Anomalousness Index of 59/100 reflects evidentiary weight that this specific file's encounter remains structurally unexplained by the rubric's six axes - it is not a claim that the underlying event involved anything non-conventional, and it is not comparable across rubrics that use different weights. For the full per-axis weights and the rubric JSON, see /methodology.
Related files in NASA
Other PURSUE files in the same category, ranked by Anomalousness Index.
NASA-UAP-D003A, Gemini 7 Audio Excerpt, 1965
NASA-UAP-D023, Interview Excerpt with Astronaut Gordon Cooper, 1962
NASA-UAP-D030, STS-80 Unidentified Object Image 1, 1996
NASA-UAP-D031, STS-80 Unidentified Object Image 2, 1996
NASA-UAP-D032, STS-80 Unidentified Object Image 3, 1996
NASA-UAP-D003, Gemini 7 Transcript, 1965
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